Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in studio to recount the weirdest things they’ve done to make church folks laugh, including homemade fireballs & dressing up like dinosaurs 🦖.

Also, a conversation on whether popular culture is fueling cognitive dissonance in modern Christians.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels 🐿®️: “Just like rats, but with way better marketing.”

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