John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties. 

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Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray. 

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Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege. 

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