Today on Talk About That, John ponders a new career in hip-hop, and gets stuck on a boat when his Instagram post goes rogue. Meanwhile Jonnie explains why he’s a control freak about booking travel, but a negligent stepdad when it comes to meal planning 🍔. 

Plus, a conversation on Revelation, and our need for certainty and aversion to mystery.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by USB Ports®️: “You will never connect a cable to us correctly on the first try.”


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