John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift.
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Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories.
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Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we’ve torn down.
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Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Paper Straws: “Saving the earth by instantly biodegrading in the cup.”
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