John worries about Jonnie driving in the snow, and considers getting his PhD. Meanwhile, Jonnie talks to his Uber driver and immediately regrets it, and ponders drinking from a boot.
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Plus, a conversation about the Illuminati and other conspiracies, our collective need for gossip and secrets, and what it says about our culture.
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