John does some retail therapy and ponders a bold new way to reduce his screen time. Meanwhile, Jonnie hits the road with way too much luggage and tells the strange history of the Patron Saint of Toothaches.

Plus, a conversation about vulnerability and why a life without humility is so dangerous.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Telepathy: “Tell me you know what I’m saying without telling me you know what I’m saying.”

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