Jonnie has a conflicted relationship with Nature 🦅, and wants a harpoon gun. Meanwhile, John trades in his cheap sunglasses for the real thing, and suggests a (questionable) cooking challenge for a future show 👨‍🍳.

Also, a conversation about conviction, and the pursuit of knowledge 📚.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Target 🎯®️: “You just spent $200, even though you only came in for toothpaste.”

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