John gets invited by Jonnie to a gender reveal party for an insect and refuses to get his brain hacked by Elon Musk. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks Abe Lincoln should’ve seen a dermatologist and tells us the history of the zipper.

Plus, a conversation about emotional maturity and the right way to change someone’s mind.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by At Home Orthodontics: “Brace Yourself!”

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