John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. 

Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: “We make you feel like you’re in a factory that makes lazy people.”

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