John kisses dating goodbye, and tells us the one thing NOT to say in an argument. Meanwhile, Jonnie celebrates the inventor of the shopping cart, and the honorable Judge Wapner. 

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Plus, a conversation about toxic hindsight and why it’s easier to be a critic than a creator. 

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