John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history.

Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.”

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