John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement deal opportunity for Michael Tait (of DC Talk fame), sending the boys down the CCM rabbit hole.

Also, a conversation on what it means to be “in the light”.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Soup ®️🥣: “It’s the drink you can eat!”

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